Cho Oyu | 1982 SE Face
A Italy expedition to Cho Oyu in 1982 via SE Face, led by Reinhold Messner. Summit reached on 18th December 1982. 8 members recorded.
Expedition Details
| Field | Value |
|---|---|
| ID | 1535 |
| Imported | 2026-03-06 18:04:49.359634 |
| Expedition ID | CHOY82401 |
| Peak ID | CHOY |
| Year | 1982 |
| Season | 4 |
| Host Country | 1 |
| Route 1 | SE Face |
| Route 2 | - |
| Route 3 | - |
| Route 4 | - |
| Nationality | Italy |
| Leaders | Reinhold Messner |
| Sponsor | South Tirolean Cho Oyu Winter Expedition 1982-83 |
| Success 1 | False |
| Success 2 | False |
| Success 3 | False |
| Success 4 | False |
| Ascent 1 | - |
| Ascent 2 | - |
| Ascent 3 | - |
| Ascent 4 | - |
| Claimed | False |
| Disputed | False |
| Countries | Austria, Poland |
| Approach | Lukla->Gokyo Valley |
| Basecamp Date | 1982-11-29 |
| Summit Date | 1982-12-18 |
| Summit Time | - |
| Summit Days | 19 |
| Total Days | 23 |
| Termination Date | 1982-12-22 |
| Termination Reason | 5 |
| Termination Notes | Abandoned at 7500m due to dangerous seracs |
| High Point (m) | 7500 |
| Traverse | False |
| Ski | False |
| Paraglide | False |
| Camps | 3 |
| Fixed Rope (m) | 0 |
| Total Members | 7 |
| Summit Members | 0 |
| Member Deaths | 0 |
| Total Hired | 4 |
| Summit Hired | 0 |
| Hired Deaths | 0 |
| No Hired | False |
| O2 Used | False |
| O2 None | True |
| O2 Climb | False |
| O2 Descent | False |
| O2 Sleep | False |
| O2 Medical | False |
| O2 Taken | False |
| O2 Unknown | False |
| Other Summits | Island Peak summited by all members except Oelz in Nov 1982 |
| Campsites | BC(29/11,5200m),C1(02/12,6000m),C2(06/12,6600m),C3(18/12,7500m),xxx(18/12,7500m) |
| Route Notes | Messner wants Cho Oyu again via SW Face which is probably more difficult but less dangerous. Would like it for next autumn with one other, Kammerlander. "On normal route sure to succeed." Alpine-style, Dhaulagiri I NE Ridge, Spring 1984. S Face Lhotse - more direct route than Yugoslavs - 12 good climbers. E Face of Makalu. W Face of Ama Dablam - it's not so high. I'm not so interested in winter. Weather better, cold not so bad and winds. "Did not stop climbing except once. Did not think we could be stopped in winter by snow. Now I've had the experience." Our camp sites 100% safe but route had to pass under serac, threatening walk where had to run across. "Its a dangerous face, more dangerous than difficult. Difficult part was pillar." Oelz - 25 Dec 82 Hanny on 16 Dec at beginning of pillar at 7100m. At 15:20 hours big avalanche came off at about 7500m and roared over him; he was in crevasse in small tent where he bivouacing for the night and helped Reinhold and Hans on the pillar (then at that time in C2 at 6600m) next day, which he did. Oelz had been with Hanny that day but had no interest in biv and was descending where heard seracs break off icefall from seracs all the time. Stone fell also. On 17th Messner and Hans escaped from high piece of rock which smashed into pieces 10m above him at about 7300m. Kurtyka, Eisendle and Oelz in Karl-accident area. If 5 minutes earlier at a site would have been buried by ice avalanche, on 6th or 7th Dec, so actually only got hit by shower of tiny ice particles. Mutschlechner did not go above C1 because frostbite not entirely healed from Kangchenjunga. Actually all members Ok; no injuries, no frostbite. No sign of Karl or Austrian C2 near where he was killed by ice avalanche. "I consider us very lucky that all of us came back even without the summit." Messner today in Lukla, to KTM tomorrow; waiting for all loads to reach Lukla today by yak. Hanny thinks because altitude didn't realize his danger and was deep in crevasse. Pieces of ice did bury him and he had to dig himself out, then stayed where he was. Sharma, Tourism - 24 Dec 82 Failed on SE Face after making C3 18 Dec 7500m. All difficulties climbed, but endless powder snow made it impossible to continue, so we had to give up at beginning of less steep summit slopes. "It was an important experience, hard climb and hard conditions." 22nd Dec will leave BC. Sharma, Tourism - 12 Dec 82 Messner's letter to Sharma says they made a temperature C2 at 6600m on 6 Dec. All well. Messner - 2 Nov 82 7 climbers and 4 Sherpas above BC - Ang Dorje Route = SE Face, perhaps above 6500m will be same as unauthorized Austrian-Germans. BC at 5100m on right side of glacier. Maximum 3 camps above BC, possibly 2 only. Snowholes in every camp. Start climb 1st Dec, will go to summit: "small chance if we do not do it before Xmas." More than 60 steepness in middle of face; will require fixed ropes with winter wind. 2 weeks minimum to prepare face for summit push. Probably 3 weeks climb. No oxygen at all. Official name in Nepal: Italian-Nepalese Cho Oyu Winter Expedition. For selves: South Tirolean Cho Oyu Winter Expedition 1982-3. Fly to Lukla on 6 Nov. Oelz arrives 6 Nov and he and Messner probably go to Lukla on 7th. |
| Accidents | - |
| Achievement | - |
| Agency | - |
| Commercial Route | False |
| Standard Route | - |
| Primary Route | False |
| Primary Member | False |
| Primary Reference | - |
| Primary ID | - |
| Checksum | 2450949 |
| Year | 1982 |
| Summit Success | False |
| O2 Summary | None |
| Route (lowercase) | se face |
Members
8 recorded members.
| Name | Sex | Year of Birth | Citizenship | Status | Residence | Occupation | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hans Peter Eisendle | M | 1956 | Italy | Climber | Sterzing, Bolzano, Italy | Alpine guide | Details Other expeditions |
| Paul Hanny | M | 1940 | Italy | Climber | Naturno, Bolzano, Italy | Hotel manager | Details Other expeditions |
| Johann (Hans) Kammerlander | M | 1956 | Italy | Climber | Sand in Taufers, Bolzano, Italy | Alpine guide | Details Other expeditions |
| Wojciech (Voytek) Kurtyka | M | 1947 | Poland | Climber | Krakow, Poland | Electronics engineer | Details Other expeditions |
| Reinhold Messner | M | 1944 | Italy | Leader | Villnoss, Bolzano, Italy | Alpinist & author of climbing books | Details Other expeditions |
| Gottfried (Friedl) Mutschlechner | M | 1949 | Italy | Climber | Brunico, Bolzano, Italy | Alpine guide | Details Other expeditions |
| Oswald Oelz | M | 1943 | Austria | Exp Doctor | Ebmatingen, Zurich, Switzerland | Physician | Details Other expeditions |
| Ang Dorje Sherpa | M | - | Nepal | H-A Worker | Thamo, Khumbu | - | Details Other expeditions |
References
5 recorded references.
| Expedition ID | Journal | Author | Title | Publisher | Citation | Yak 94 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| CHOY82401 | AAJ | Oelz, Oswald | - | - | 57:233 (1983) | - |
| CHOY82401 | - | Mutschlechner, Friedl | Einer Geht Immer Voraus | Rudolf Rother, Munich | - | M585 |
| CHOY82401 | - | Messner, Reinhold | 3x8000 | Herbig, Munich | - | M343 |
| CHOY82401 | MM | - | - | - | 90:9 (Mar 1983) | - |
| CHOY82401 | - | - | http://publications.americanalpineclub.org/articles/12198323301/Asia-Nepal-Cho-Oyu-South-Face-Winter-Attempt | - | - | - |